Damn The Watchtower

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  Are the children of a state the responsibility of the state?

  by sabastious in

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  a few months back the newly appointed governor of wisconsin, scott walker, took a lot of heat for the monetary policies he put in place.

  i remember hearing him make statements to the crowds regarding the future of the "children of wisconsin.

  " he made a point to mention the children's future in regard to their debt that was feared as too big for the future to handle.. how would governor walker react to witness child policies if he was told what actually takes place in many congregations of jehovah's witnesses.

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  Sabastious,

  "but the difference is that the JWs are around kids consistantly;"

  Many people are "around kids consistantly" their teachers, their neighbors, their family members, etc. Every child who attends a church, a school function, a neighborhood recreation area etc on a regular basis, is exposed to possible encounters with abusers. Just walking down the street has become a hazard. I'm no friend of the Governing Body but we must at the very least use common sense and keep a balance when accusations are made.
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  Are the children of a state the responsibility of the state?

  by sabastious in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a few months back the newly appointed governor of wisconsin, scott walker, took a lot of heat for the monetary policies he put in place.

  i remember hearing him make statements to the crowds regarding the future of the "children of wisconsin.

  " he made a point to mention the children's future in regard to their debt that was feared as too big for the future to handle.. how would governor walker react to witness child policies if he was told what actually takes place in many congregations of jehovah's witnesses.

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  Hello Sabastious,

  What exactly are you referring to? Is there a type of child abuse among the Witnesses that does not occur in the general population?
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  For My Christian, Jewish and Atheist Friends, "Why I am No Longer a Christian."

  by Robdar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a rather long yet fascinating documentary from a former ku student about his transformation from a true christian believer to an atheist.

  if you have the time to watch it, i would love to hear your comments.

  http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/why-i-am-no-longer-a-christian/.

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  Hello Robdar,

  Thank you for the link. This young man experienced an emotional connection to religion not too dissimilar from many Christians. His spine tingled, he found himself speaking in tongues etc. This is not the religion Jesus taught. Jesus did not teach speaking in tongues. It is an emotional experience foreign to the teachings of Jesus.

  "Graceful degradation" is the natural result of a religious belief based on the teachings of men and not God.
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  Robert Jay Lifton interviewed by Steve Hassan July 13th 2011

  by Dogpatch in

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  steven hassan says,.

  i sat down and had a most wonderful conversation with robert jay lifton, m.d.

  on the occasion the publication of his memoir entitled, witness to an extreme century.. .

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  Damn The Watchtower

  Atrocities are not limited to a religion or culture. The Iraq war of 2003 was an atrocity. The Vietnam war was also. To hold a country's economy hostage for the sake of political gain, which is what is happening in the U.S. today, is also an atrocity considering that so many here are hurting economically.

  Destroying the world to save it, is exactly what happened in Iraq and Vietnam and even threatened today in the U.S. Let's not confuse the desires of men for power with religion. Men greed for power, it matters little if it is religious or political power.
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  The Real Issues Facing former Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  on internet forums such as these, it is to be expected that there will be people who want to save jw's.

  esp from (thinking for) themselves.. however, the real dillema's facing an ex jw who leaves, whether on their own terms or being disfellowshipped are real and haven't changed.. .

  lonliness, how to make friends, is a big issue.. fear, esp fear based on superstition, a fear of god and of the future that is not in any way based in proveable fact.. education, how to think and reason critically to avoid being taken advantage of is a big challenge.. love, sex, and how to navigate your way around all of that hot mess.. geez, yeah, forgot.

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  The real issue facing former Jehovah's Witnesses is who they are.
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  Watching the Leadership Crumble

  by Damn The Watchtower in

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  i watch the watchtower leaders crumble, slowly crumble.

  one nonsensical move after the other.

  you have no idea how this makes me feel.

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  Damn The Watchtower

  Thank you, James Woods. I hope your mother recovers and will spend many more days with her family.
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  Watching the Leadership Crumble

  by Damn The Watchtower in

  1. jw
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  i watch the watchtower leaders crumble, slowly crumble.

  one nonsensical move after the other.

  you have no idea how this makes me feel.

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  To all who posted, thank you! My older brother was admitted to the hospital two days ago and my mind and efforts have been spent in doing what I could. There is surely a divide between me and many who post here. But that divide is not insurmountable. I do love you all.
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  Watching the Leadership Crumble

  by Damn The Watchtower in

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  i watch the watchtower leaders crumble, slowly crumble.

  one nonsensical move after the other.

  you have no idea how this makes me feel.

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  Damn The Watchtower

  Moshe,

  Yes, they would have to act as a group. But they do not, they cannot. Let me be frank, how many brothers and sisters who have left their Jehovah's Witness faith have remained believers in God's existence? Does anyone here have a number for this? Now, let me ask, what incentive do I, or other Witnesses who question the leadership, have to encourage our friends to leave their faith? Can we honestly hope that all our friends who leave will remain believers in God?

  You ask that we kill our own, I realize you do not think of it that way, but for us that is the reality. No, we will not kill our own. We will sooner work against all who vilify the Watchtower than kill our own. Yes, the Watchtower that insists at times in killing us, ourselves. I take the example of the U.S. again, Americans may disagree with their leadership and even hate what they do, but few will leave and few will take up arms against what they believe is a government based on good principles. We feel likewise with respect to the Witness faith.

  Did you hear what this old man said? This old man who took the name, Damn The Watchtower? I would never encourage my brother or sister to leave their faith because, in truth, what is outside of the our faith is at the very least unknown and at most may lead to unbelief in God's existence.

  Do not think we are all idiots led by idiots. No, we are lovers of God who at times are in shame over our leadership but we still love our God.

  Thank you, Moshe, for your kind words.
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  Watching the Leadership Crumble

  by Damn The Watchtower in

  1. jw
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  i watch the watchtower leaders crumble, slowly crumble.

  one nonsensical move after the other.

  you have no idea how this makes me feel.

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  Damn The Watchtower

  Hello CoCo,

  "This is not what we signed up for," ...no sadder words have ever been uttered.
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  Watching the Leadership Crumble

  by Damn The Watchtower in

  1. jw
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  i watch the watchtower leaders crumble, slowly crumble.

  one nonsensical move after the other.

  you have no idea how this makes me feel.

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  Damn The Watchtower

  Hello Moshe,

  Have you read Br. Raymond Franz' book, Crisis of Conscience? If so, then you know that he did not leave the Witness faith when he left Bethel. He moved and continued attending meetings at the local Kingdom Hall. Are you saying he was one of those pigs at the trough you have pictured above? I don't think you are but please know that Br. Franz was not the only one to see the error and remain. Why did he remain? I don't know but I do know why I remain. And if you believe me to be a pig at a trough so be it. I am in good company, brother.

  Attacks do not make for informative conversation. Br. Franz dispensed what you call slop for many years. Hard to understand the lack of effort to at least communicate in a decent manner.